When it comes to organizing, especially for neurodivergent individuals, the struggle is often more than just about tidying up—it’s about creating systems that work with, rather than against, the way the brain functions. I had the pleasure of speaking with Gayle Gruenberg, a certified professional organizer specializing in chronic disorganization. Gayle has been in the field for over 21 years and brings a deep sense of compassion to her work. Her approach? Love, understanding, and a willingness to meet clients exactly where they are. What follows is a summary of our conversation. You can enjoy the full conversation on YouTube.

What is Chronic Disorganization?

According to Gayle, chronic disorganization is when someone has struggled with disorganization for most of their life, has tried multiple solutions without success, and expects to remain disorganized without outside intervention. It’s not just about clutter—it’s about the impact that disorganization has on daily life. Many of her clients struggle with ADHD, anxiety, depression, OCD, or other brain-based challenges that make organization difficult.

From CPA to Professional Organizer

Gayle’s journey into organizing started in a surprising place: accounting. “I hated being a CPA,” she admitted with a laugh. Feeling trapped in an office without time for her family, she pivoted after a colleague suggested she try professional organizing. Within hours of announcing her new business, she had her first client—and she never looked back.

Who Struggles Most with Disorganization?

While chronic disorganization doesn’t discriminate, Gayle noted that many of her clients share common struggles: they are creative, intelligent, and have lived through significant life challenges, including trauma. “We create barriers around ourselves with stuff,” she explained. For some, their physical clutter mirrors emotional struggles.

A Case Study in Hoarding

One of Gayle’s more intense projects involved a client with severe hoarding tendencies. With 14 team members and 365 person-hours, they transformed a home filled with years of accumulated belongings to prepare it for sale. But when the client returned, she was devastated, feeling as though a part of her had been taken away. “She accused us of stealing things,” Gayle recalled. “We were absolved of any wrongdoing, but it was a powerful lesson in how deeply emotional our relationships with possessions can be.” Since then, she’s been more discerning about red flags and client readiness for change.

What Makes a Good Client?

For Gayle, the best clients are open-minded, communicative, and willing to make changes. “A good sense of humor helps too,” she added. She also values shared expectations and boundaries, noting that alignment in values can play a significant role in a successful collaboration.

A Success Story: Making Space for Blessings

One of Gayle’s clients started in a cluttered, chaotic environment that reflected deeper struggles in her personal life. Over 12 years, Gayle helped her clear physical and mental space, leading to a transformation beyond organization. “She left an unhappy marriage, moved to Arizona, and is now thriving,” Gayle shared. “She made space for blessings, and they arrived.”

Rethinking Mess: Does It Really Matter?

We discussed a recent New York Times article, I Think My Home is Messy, and I Don’t Feel Bad About It, which resonated with both of us. Gayle loved the author’s radical self-acceptance. “If clutter isn’t negatively impacting your life, who cares?” she said. “It’s about working with your natural tendencies, not against them.”

A Unique Organizing Tip

If you’re overwhelmed and don’t know where to start, Gayle has a fun suggestion: take a paper towel tube, hold it up to your eye, and whatever you land on, start there. “It’s a great way to block out distractions and focus on what really needs attention,” she explained.

Final Thoughts

Gayle’s philosophy is built on love, patience, and understanding. Her advice for those looking to get started: just begin. “Progress builds momentum,” she reminded me.

You can find more about Gayle’s work at lgorganized.com. And if you’re looking for a compassionate guide to help you make space for blessings, she might just be the perfect fit. Also, check out her Book on Amazon!

My Home Is Messy, and I Don’t Feel Bad About It NYTimes. This is a “Gift” link so hopefully you won’t hit the paywall!


If you’re struggling with organization, remember: it’s not about perfection—it’s about finding what works for you.